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as I was thinking about doing this talk

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I thought of several ways to start it

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and the way I chose is this one I was

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sitting in my living room one day and I

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got a call from the director of a

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nuclear power plant

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and he said to me how do I know that I'm

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getting the faint signals okay and the

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nuclear power business faint signals are

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the precursors of potentially serious

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events so thing is as a consultant you

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never want to be in a situation where

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you have to say I don't know right so so

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that's what I said I think that's true I

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didn't know I have sir I don't have any

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idea okay that was not the right answer

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he was not impressed and I felt terrible

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so I worked on it for a year later and

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eventually came up with a valuable

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result so this is a theme I'm going to

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come back to how do we know we're

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getting the faint signals how do we know

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we're getting a faint signals so my talk

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is on portal areas and I got involved

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with the Yakima Indian Reservation

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portal area many years back and this was

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actually I think 1981 and there were a

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series of articles in the MUFON UFO

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journal describing very interesting

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events going out of this big Indian

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Reservation which is out in Washington

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State

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and I was young now and it was single

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and I thought why don't I just go out

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and take a look so I wrote the Center

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for UFO studies it turned out the day it

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actually had somebody out there looking

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at things and they had a loose-leaf

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notebook that was that thick full of

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incidents which of course I read

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completely farman out there and then got

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in a car along with the Native American

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who I hope

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actually be in kind of emissary because

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obviously it's a different culture and I

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hope that this would help in terms of

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talking to the people that I I talk to

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so I literally went out there and lived

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in a tent for it was a regular dance for

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two weeks and went around and

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interviewed people and I found some very

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interesting phenomena yet this is a

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picture of the reservation it's got the

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Gifford Pinchot National Forest here on

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the west it's very near to Mount Adams a

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variety of other mountain ranges this is

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very near where the first UFO was

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sighted in 1947 by Kenneth Arnold but

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this is a variety of phenomena that I

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found okay and all these things came up

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in the interviews that I did now what do

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you do with something like this okay

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we've got UFOs all right we know about

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that we've got a Bigfoot yeah yeah balls

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of light balls of light that often would

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be monitored by the people who sat up on

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the mountaintops watching for fires in

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the valley Jack some of the best

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witnesses were people who were these

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women who literally sit up on a mountain

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type and watch for fires in the valley

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and they would see these balls of light

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moving in and out the valley well were

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they well I didn't figure that one out

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I'll be surprised to come across a

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couple UFO abductions and you come

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across these events

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a way that somebody says well you ought

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to talk to me to Bill about this

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particular thing it's all you go and

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talk to Bill and you discover Bill is in

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the center of this very impressive

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abduction and there were there were a

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couple of dungeons actually so the nice

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thing about the Yakima reservation is

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that according to some of the local one

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of them there's a lot of ability to

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observe UFOs okay people literally sit

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and shave a Gil Lance backyard and

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watched the UFOs alright well so I'm

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sure how many of you have ever heard of

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this before

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okay so but it's not just UFOs it's all

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the other stuff too so I specialize in

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looking at hidden events hidden events

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are things that shouldn't happen but do

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that many people experience but a very

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few people want to talk about and here

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are some examples I've done maybe 10

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different studies on this things ranging

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from spontaneous human combustion to

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child abuse

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black-footed ferrets and so on and so

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forth I'm particularly interested in the

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flow of information about these hidden

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events so the usual thing about hidden

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events is that they're dispersed widely

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in the population so what you've got is

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a situation sociologists call

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pluralistic ignorance where lots of

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people experience something but since

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nobody talks about it you don't know the

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other people have the experience you've

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been telling about your experience and

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what happens if you've got a

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concentration of anomalous events of

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different kinds okay that's clearly what

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we had on the Occupy Indian Reservation

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a concentration of events of different

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kinds in one area okay so it's a

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conglomerate it's a portal we'll talk

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about portals shortly okay so a portal

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area is a large area hundreds or even

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thousands of square kilometers

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it's diverse anomalous events and

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there's no obvious intuitive

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relationship between the events in fact

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you could almost say well they shouldn't

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be happening together but they do okay

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so it turns out that there are a couple

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other areas like this and it took me a

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while to realize that I was familiar

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with the other two areas but had never

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thought of them is another portal area

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and I thought well hey there's two more

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one of them is San Luis Valley Colorado

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the New Mexico Louise okay

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and the other was Southwest Pennsylvania

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in Westmoreland County this doesn't

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sound like weird territory but it is

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okay we'll see how weird okay so here's

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the San Luis Valley not a very good oh

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and here's what we've got in the San

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Luis Valley enough stuff basically UFOs

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Bigfoot mutilated cattle underground

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noises psychic phenomena black

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helicopters and so forth to have

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actually is really substantial this is

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yeah in Westmoreland County we have the

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same kind of stuff now what are these

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areas have in common I was really smart

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I could probably tell you what they all

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have in common actually people write

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books about portal areas here are three

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of them okay so here's here's the one

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about Yakima here's the one about the

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San Luis Valley and here's the one about

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Southwest Pennsylvania well writes about

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portal areas now this is where it gets

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interesting how do we develop

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information about places like this and

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the answer is people who live there all

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three of the authors of these books are

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locals and they typically lived in the

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area for a long time and it's certainly

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true of Stan Gordon who's been in

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southwest Pennsylvania for the

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thirty seems like forty years certainly

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true Chris O'Brien who's written three

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books actually on the San Luis Valley

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and Greg long who wrote a book on the

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yakima light phenomenon and it's now

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published a book on the big book and so

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why is it that the locals write about

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the stuff the reason is because there's

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lots of events but they take place over

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long periods of time okay so the only

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way you're gonna find out about all this

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what goes on in the portal area why do

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we think of it to the port Larry well

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seems like stuff comes in oh I'll be

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the question is from where and maybe it

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goes out because it's not there all the

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time right the nature of reality

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sometimes momentarily changes get a nas

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effect or maybe there's just more stuff

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to there okay no okay really uh this is

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partly a brainstorming session to help

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me figure out what we really got here

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okay so furthermore there's not a

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steady-state and so when I went out in

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82 I am missed by about four years the

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big period of balls of light out of

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Yakima that had generated my original

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attention and so forth and got me to go

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out there and take a look so UFO

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sightings go up and down balls of light

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go up and down mutilated cows Laurie

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they have Bigfoot sightings some had a

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lot more in one year than another how

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Pennsylvania settled you know where do

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they find the room for Bigfoot with all

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okay well the interesting thing about

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this yeah I called Stan Gordon I said do

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you have a map of the these events and

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he said no we don't have any maps but it

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turns out that the Pennsylvania Bigfoot

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society didn't have a map

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actually and they have a breakdown by

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county of how many Bigfoot sightings

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they have okay so where was the biggest

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concentration where they had a hundred

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and seventeen Bigfoot sightings it was

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in Westmoreland County where is stands

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of Gordon's UFO Reporting Center it's in

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Westmoreland County okay now was it

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providentially the case that basically

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the when Stan Gordon started looking at

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this stuff all of a sudden that was

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where all the events began to happen no

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we're looking at a reporting factor okay

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so the interesting possibility is

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there's probably left and lots of other

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reports and the other counties average

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number per county is about six okay you

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probably didn't think there were any

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Bigfoot right okay so what causes

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anomaly in these areas okay are we

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dealing with some sort of geological

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effect the earth light theory says

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basically balls of light as a result of

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some sort of geological problems and so

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forth is that right well Greg while I

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actually tried to test that was

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unconvinced at the end that basically

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was geological is it a UFO portal do we

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have areas in the sky but open up on the

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UFOs come through ostensibly probably go

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back in the saddle wheats valley people

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have actually seen things vanish in the

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air by stages okay what is it that

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stealth technology I don't know Peter

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Sturrock has the idea of a

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transdimensional duct between parallel

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universes sounds convincing to me could

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all right so we have small-scale

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examples

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John Alexander was that a material on

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the skinwalker ranch and Utah how big is

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the area do you have any idea how big

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right right so how big of this entity

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how big of this sanity yeah well the

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Yakima reservation is huge it's like

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3,500 square miles okay so but but its

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now here's a book about the zone called

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zones of strangeness how many of you

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have heard of this book ever okay now

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here's another interesting fact if it is

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a fact and that is if we look at the

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distribution of information there's the

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temptation to see it having a nice bell

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curve shade okay

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and so the information in principle

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should be widely spread but actually I

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think it's probably more like this in

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other words if you're living there

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then all this stuff is sort of second

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nature to you you don't really pay much

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attention to it until of course

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something happens to you like any story

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about the globes okay so why should we

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study portal areas well maybe portal

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areas offer clues to the nature of

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things like Bigfoot and UFOs maybe the

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first events actually are related in

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some way but what is the way how could

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UFOs be related to Bigfoot okay I

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honestly haven't a clue but in

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Pennsylvania there is this long term

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relationship the stand gourd is been

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talking about literally for decades okay

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there are problems at study

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malaria's first problem is data captured

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I mentioned that Stan in spite of the

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fact that he's lived there for that's

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right for 30 years

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there's no Maps it hasn't made a map of

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where things happen okay so who

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investigates do you have a database is a

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data compared internally is it compared

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externally how are the data display

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timelines Maps multi-dimensional

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databases data be transferred to another

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researcher second problem is theory okay

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so the average investigator is typically

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not a theorist and in fact a lot of

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investigators are scientifically

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challenged we're not gonna make any

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assertions here about people in this

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specific theorists seldom approach

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ill-defined problems like this and this

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is an ill-defined problem like I admit

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and then you've got a scientific team

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okay now the ideal of course would be

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has something like the skinwalker ranch

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where you've got how many millions of

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dollars of investment a lot of highly

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qualified scientific people but the

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I'd say modest results be my assessment

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okay so wider implications if there's a

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portal if there's a portal who built it

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what's it for if the portal communicates

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someplace else what's come through it

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are we missing some key pieces of

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evidence the SETI program the whole

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basis of study is basically we're

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searching for electromagnetic signals

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from elsewhere what if instead of that

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we've got another way of getting from

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one solar system to another and we're

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not even paying attention to so are we

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missing the faint signals so we've got

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this problem

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it's very ill-defined it didn't strike

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me ice I admit this until six months ago

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and I thought I could if we could give a

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talk and SSE what's it gonna be about I

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thought this would be a fascinating

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thing to look at and I thought well I

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know of these other two portal areas

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whether my talk about this as a concept

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a class of events okay especially

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because he had the skinwalker ranch

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which is certainly a very small-scale

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thing but poses many of the same

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problems so I don't know where to begin

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I mean I sat on this data for a long

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time and I don't know where to go next

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with this I'm looking for ideas and

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obviously I'm looking for people who

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might be interested in investigating

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these problems but it's not easy okay

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these are the big areas the stuffs been

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going on for a long time and even though

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there are people who are local experts

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just very briefly have you considered

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the possibility that you might might

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have the causal relationship inverted

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because weird things happen a lot

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everywhere and you you said that you you

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only find out about these portal areas

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when there's been somebody who's been

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living there a long time who is also

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observant and articulate enough to write

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a book and what if it's simply that

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those areas appear to be portal areas

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because there's somebody been living

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there a long time who's articulate and

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observant that's a very good question so

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the immediate answer is if you look on a

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site called alien vacation you will I'm

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not making this up okay two of two of

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the areas identified our yakima and city

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in the san miguel valley so i'm not i'm

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not making up and also the yakima is a

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city that has according to the internet

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the most UFO sightings in any American

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regarding skinwalker there's a term that

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I've created for working that are called

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the precognitives sentient phenomenon

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meaning that it knew it was very

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resistance and so we want to go steady

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it was very resistant we had the wrench

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instrument and I'm thinking what would

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happen is just off camera or things

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would happen that should have been on

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camera that won't and last year we had a

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whole panel of the the trickster

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phenomena and I think that that's

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greatly you know what's involved

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it is not easy so using your traditional

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methods of I'll go watch I'll do you

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know everything we tried it was one step

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ahead whatever it is and it was in

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control well the Indians told me when I

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got to Yakima about the previous effort

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on the part of the Center for UFO

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studies who had sent an engineer along

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with lots of apparatus ok so the

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engineer is sitting on this hillside

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he's got his recording magnetometer he's

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got you know radiation meters everything

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ready to go and so forth so here comes a

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greasy light ball over at the top of the

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hill so what the hell what's his

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scientific response oh my god what is

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that

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was really funny ok

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so none of the equipment worked that's

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typical I take a different approach I've

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been all over the world tracking earth

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lights and there are about a hundred

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places on earth where earth lights

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normally occur and if you count those as

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portals I can tell you some information

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that they're all above about background

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radiation there are magnetic anomalies

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and magnetic variability anomalies that

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come and go they're not there they're

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not there constantly and I think that's

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all I have to say well along those lines

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I just knew your thoughts about crop

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circles they seem to occur in certain

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regions especially southern England

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where there are known sacred sites ley

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lines what have you and maybe some of

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the magnetic anomalies that she's

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referring about any thoughts about those

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in portal areas crop circles are also

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related to individuals I mean there are

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certain individuals who literally can

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say well hey this is going to be a crop

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circle here and next thing you know

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there's a crop circle

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okay and it's not hoaxers it's something

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else ok I'm not I don't know but crop

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circles didn't seem to be part of the

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this particular phenomenon it in this

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no krauser many years ago high voltage

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DC power line was built from the middle

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of North Dakota to Minneapolis hundreds

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of miles but you were involved as an and

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there was a one County much baby is 20

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miles along this power line where people

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were sick the animals were sick to the

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point that they started cutting down on

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these big towers and so the sheriff's up

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there and actually I was talking this is

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one of the my early ssed meaning the

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physicists at the meeting actually was

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involved in a panel and the conclusion

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was there is nothing really different in

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the fields or anything else except this

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one section everybody seemed to have

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sickness and the animals were sick and

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everything but it sort of follows up but

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York say I mean all the hundreds of

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miles in either direction that was no

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problem yeah usually it's ozone from the

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wires but I've never heard about that

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before I know that there was a lot of

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what you might call citizen resistance

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to the power lines and a lot of them got

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shot out yes and they had a barbecue and

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then they would topple the tower you